What the AMC Summit revealed about Season 4 of ‘Better Call Saul’



“It gets darker. It gets richer.”

Better Call Saul Executive Producers Vince Gilligan and Melissa Bernstein among assorted cast and crew were on hand at the AMC Summit press day on Wednesday in New York City to discuss the show and drop hints about what to expect in the upcoming season.

“It gets darker. It gets richer,” Gilligan said of Season 4. “It’s still got funny in it. You know, god forbid that go away completely. But, on the Venn diagram of ‘Breaking Bad’ and ‘Better Call Saul,’ the overlap in the center is getting bigger and bigger.”

Rhea Seehorn and Costume Designer Jennifer Bryan Photo: Michael Rosch

Those perhaps hoping Jimmy’s brother Chuck (Michael McKean) will be miraculously saved from his burning house should be prepared to have those hopes dashed as producers as well as actress Rhea Seehorn (Kim Wexler) casually acknowledged the future Saul Goodman would be dealing with the aftermath of his brother’s death in Season 4.

“We have a couple of new characters that we’ll be reintroducing to the world,” Bernstein said. “There is a character, a very important character. I’m not promising you ever saw this character, but there was a very important character nonetheless from the ‘Breaking Bad’ era who we’re going to meet this year,” Gilligan cryptically stated. But Bernstein gave up the name “Lalo”

Vince Gilligan Photo: Michael Rosch

“And then everyone said, ‘who the hell is Lalo?'” Gilligan quipped, recognizing that many fans of the previous series may not immediately recall the name. Lalo was only alluded to once in ‘Breaking Bad’ the very first time we met Saul. When a masked Walt and Jesse hold Saul at gunpoint, a terrified Saul asks if Lalo sent them.  Gilligan assured the room that, once they get to know Lalo, “you’re going to say, ‘F--k yeah!’ You’re going to be impressed with Lalo.”

Series Costume Designer Jennifer Bryan displayed two “ultra shiny suits” and the ominous skull-tipped boots worn by The Cousins, fan favorite characters from ‘Breaking Bad’ that briefly appeared in Season 2 of ‘Better Call Saul,’ suggesting Tuco’s twin cousins may be returning this season.

Photo: Michael Rosch

Unsurprisingly, one of Better Call Saul’s fan favorite characters will also return this season. “We left Gene in great peril, so we will return, and we will see Gene,” Bernstein promised, referring to Jimmy’s post-Breaking Bad-era, Cinnabon employee persona briefly glimpsed at the start of every season in black and white flash forwards.

“This is Jimmy’s story. This is Jimmy McGill’s story, and it doesn’t end with what happens to Walter White,” series writer Gordon Smith said. “He’s got a story that we are very invested in sort of figuring out what exactly is the state of Gene’s soul; is there a redemption for him?”

Season 4 of “Better Call Saul” premieres on August 6 at 9 p.m. ET on AMC.